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Postat 09 March 2006 - 12:12 AM

Constructii Aeronautice Romanesti ( Romanian Aeronautical Construction ) de Dan Antoniu si George Cicos - in lb.engleza :

Contents

The Beginnings
Attempts the history of which has become a legend or reality, from the early days until the year 1900.



CHAP. 1 The Forerunners
Inventors 1901 - 1916.


CHAP. 2 Manufacturers
From 1917 to date.


CHAP. 3 Factories and Shops
-AEROSTAR SA
-ARSENALUL AERONAUTIC Cotroceni
-ATELIERELE DE REPARATII MATERIAL VOLANT nr.2
-ASTRA Arad
-AVIOANE SA Craiova
-CERCHEZ & CO. Chitila
-CENTRUL NATIONAL DE PLANORISM Sanpetru Brasov
-INDUSTRIA AERONAUTICA ROMANA IAR Brasov
-INDUSTRIA AERONAUTICA ROMANA IAR SA Brasov
-INTREPRINDEREA DE CONSTRUCTII AERONAUTICE ROMANE ICAR Bucuresti
-INTREPRINDEREA FORESTIERA DE INDUSTRIALIZARE A LEMNULUI IFIL Reghin
-ROMAERO SA
-SOCIETATEA DE EXPLOATARI TEHNICE SET Bucuresti
-SOCIETATEA DE TRANSPORT CONSTANTA STC
-SCOALA DE PLANORISM IAD Bistrita
-BROTHERS SCHIEL FACTORY

CHAP. 4 Propelling Systems and Engines
Cap.4.1 Beginnings
Cap.4.2 Factories
AEROSTAR SA Bacau
ASTRA Arad
IAR Brasov
TURBOMECANICA Bucuresti


FOREWORD

Efforts have been made on large scale lately to produce historical monographs on the achievements in the aeronautical field. As regards the Romanian aeronautical developments although the issue was of interest for those who wanted to write a history on the subject, their work was somehow limited to pointing out the peaks. The Romanian achievements in the aeronautical field remained unknown both at home and abroad and this is perhaps the reason why the Romanians have not been awarded their well deserved place in the world aeroanutical history. At this point, the authors of this work have assumed a most difficult task and responsibility to produce a monograph which tried to observe the pure historical truth and to correct the errors made until now. In fact it is the authors belief that these errors were caused by the limited access to information sources. The present work is the result of a minute team research activity which focused on the Romanian and foreign official records including also private records which resulted in a tremendous volume of information, some excessively detailed other concise, yet of importance.
The authors want to present all this information to the readers, particularly to those who are passionately fond of the aeronautical issue as well as to the researchers thus offering them the possibility to make comparisons and to identify priorities at a limited and larger level of the world aeronautical creation.
In March 2006, Romania will celebrate the 100th Anniversary of the world’s first mechanical flight performed by the Romanian Traian Vuia. Despite the importance of the event no complete documentation on this subject has been produced and world acknowledged as yet.
The study of the documents that were discovered will reveal preoccupations for the aeronautical field on the side of both known and unknown people. The Romanian aviation forerunners included a great many people who conducted fundamental studies and research work in the field , delivered conferences and published the results of their research activity but more important they designed and manufactured airplanes and engines at their own expense, spending their financial resources to the last penny. As a result they were forced to abandon their work and actually remained anonymous. In our efforts to write this work we were pleasantly surprised to rediscover these people who remained anoymous so far. In writing this Encyclopedia we considered it our duty to present these people to the readers if not for anything else but for the mere fact that at a certain moment in time they had principles which turned out to be valid over the years.
In June 1910 the Romanian inventor Constantin Marinescu reached a conclusion which is worth Mentioning: ’’There is a total lack of interest in the aeronautical field on the side of the authorities’’, a situation which in his opinion had to be improved. In a report on his invention addressed to the Ministry of War he was stating the following: ’’Flying machines should be considered practical and necessary inventions rather than sports or curiosity objects”.
In September 1910, the same inventor resumed the issue in a report addressed to King Carol 1. Regarding the development reached by the aeronautical inventors at that time: ’’The studies carried out so far are complete. Only time and experiments will help mankind penetrate the secrets of this dark empire ’’. But people will grasp the meaning of these words later on. All these new and yet ‚’’old things ” for us, nowadays , must be brought to light from the dusty Chronicles and files and reproduced as written, heard or spoken. Many of the writings of those days will seem to us magnificent utopia or baroques fantasies, others will be worthy of our regrets for having not yet been materialised.
The authors leave it entirely to the readers to draw the conclusions regarding the real value of all these attempts made in the aeronautical field and trust they will certainly be indulgent in their judgement avoiding the current technical approach. Faced with the present achievements, these past inventors would have certainly had different reactions and perhaps many of them would have abandoned the study and would not have achieved anything . Let us imagine, for example, how ignorant we shall appear in our turn, in the eyes of the future generations and that they may speak of us in high terms sometime.
We are aware that we have not managed to reveal all the information of the archives which would have enabled us to praise all the Romanians who were preoccupied with flying who designed and produced airplies and tried to fly them. In our work we presented inventions and designs that were materialised as well as others which remianed in the design stage. We considered that all of them were of a particular scientific and historical value, the difference consisting in the inventor’s financial capacity to achieve the work.
In the early years the appointed commissions verdict on certain inventions or achievements was quite often the wrong one. This was due to the lack of knowledge in the field presented by the inventor who had the advantage of his own thinking and research in the respective field , for instance the vertical take-off planes which were recognised later on for the reason that they were a fantasy hardly understandable.

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Postat 09 March 2006 - 12:38 AM

Lansarea cartii va avea loc la Muzeul Aviatiei cu ocazia aniversarii "Centenarului VUIA " ( 18 martie 2006 ) - pret ~ 80 RON

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  Postat 09 March 2006 - 09:11 AM

Foarte interesant !!
Da' mai repede nu se pot achizitiona exemplare ?!
De ex. acum sambata, daca tot venim pana la Bucuresti la MM !!

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Postat 09 March 2006 - 08:00 PM

Ba da !!! Numarul de mobil al Dl.Antoniu : 0722.502.958

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Postat 10 March 2006 - 07:18 PM

Detalii comenzi :

Romanian Aeronautical Constructions

Comenzi pe mail dantoniu@myx.net

Pret ptr. Romania - Lei (RON) 80 lei + 10 lei expeditie.

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Modificare :

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Postat 20 April 2006 - 10:29 AM

Iata ca m-am intors la calculatorul meu dupa o scurta vacanta.
Cu ocazia unei prea scurte vizite pe acasa, maica-mea m-a surprins cu cartea asta.
Trebuie sa spun ca este o carte de referinta fara egal in Romania sau in lume. Mi-e greu sa spun in cuvinte cat de mult m-a incantat cartea asta dar pot spune ca sunt extrem de multumit. Sunt in ea niste date si poze unice pe care le cautam de ani de zile. De exemplu, m-a incantat imens poza cu IAR47 din lateral, care arata clar forma fuselajului. Prezentarea si calitatea sunt de asemenea excelente. Singura problema pe care o pot avea e ca traducerea in engleza e cam stangace in unele locuri (vechea capcana a traducerii "cuvant cu cuvant" in loc de "inteles cu inteles" - chestii pe care si un profesor de ciclul doi ar trebui sa le "prinda.") dar asta e o chestie de carcoteala si sunt mai mult decat dispus sa ii iert pe autori.
Autorii au depus o munca enorma si se simte pasiunea lor pentru subiect. Pozele sunt excelente iar desenele, cu toate ca nu sunt la scara, sunt perfect clare si utilizabile.
O carte recomandata oricarui pasionat de aviatia romana. Pentru mine, este un vis implinit.

Tare as vrea ca autorii sa scoata si prima lor carte despre IAR80 in aceleasi conditii de prezentare si calitate.

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Postat 20 April 2006 - 11:56 AM

daca ai cumva posibilitatea pune si aici pe forum poza cu IAR-47 te rog!

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Postat 20 April 2006 - 01:25 PM

Trebuie sa imi iau un scaner nou ca cel pe care il am a avut un "accident". Nu stiu cand o sa pot pune un scan.
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Postat 20 April 2006 - 04:58 PM

si o foto digitala e buna daca se poate!mersi!

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Postat 20 April 2006 - 05:21 PM

Salut Horia,
Uite o poza.
Imaginea ar fi mai buna scanata sau privita in carte :-D Recomand cartea din toata inima, e plina de astfel de "comori"
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Postat 20 April 2006 - 05:23 PM

radub, la Apr 20 2006, 11:29 AM, a spus:

Trebuie sa spun ca este o carte de referinta fara egal in Romania sau in lume. .....
Prezentarea si calitatea sunt de asemenea excelente. Singura problema pe care o pot avea e ca traducerea in engleza e cam stangace in unele locuri ...... dar asta e o chestie de carcoteala si sunt mai mult decat dispus sa ii iert pe autori.
Autorii au depus o munca enorma si se simte pasiunea lor pentru subiect. Pozele sunt excelente iar desenele, cu toate ca nu sunt la scara, sunt perfect clare si utilizabile.
O carte recomandata oricarui pasionat de aviatia romana. Pentru mine, este un vis implinit.

Tare as vrea ca autorii sa scoata si prima lor carte despre IAR80 in aceleasi conditii de prezentare si calitate.

Radu

Intradevar Radu, cartea e o mica capodopera in sine !
Sunt un pic intristat ca traducerea nu e la nivelul restului cartii. Eu ca roman, vorbitor de l.engleza invatata la tv, uitandu-ma la filme date de sarbi, la posturile lor, in anii epocii de aur, nu am sesizat inadvertente. Oricum traducerea mi s-a parut mult mai buna decat la cartile in l.engleza de la Modelism Int.

Legat de cartea despre IAR-80, ea sta sa apara de la un moment la altul (poate deja a si aparut ) la editura TMA Editions, in limba franceza. Vezi :
http://www.aerostories.org/~aerobiblio/rub...?id_rubrique=11

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Postat 20 April 2006 - 05:41 PM

Blue-Max, la Apr 20 2006, 03:23 PM, a spus:

Intradevar Radu, cartea e o mica capodopera in sine !
Sunt un pic intristat ca traducerea nu e la nivelul restului cartii. Eu ca roman, vorbitor de l.engleza invatata la tv, uitandu-ma la filme date de sarbi, la posturile lor, in anii epocii de aur, nu am sesizat inadvertente. Oricum traducerea mi s-a parut mult mai buna decat la cartile in l.engleza de la Modelism Int.

Legat de cartea despre IAR-80, ea sta sa apara de la un moment la altul (poate deja a si aparut ) la editura TMA Editions, in limba franceza. Vezi :
http://www.aerostories.org/~aerobiblio/rub...?id_rubrique=11

Salut Blue-Max
"Greselile" nu sunt catastrofale si sunt de rutina. Un exemplu: "nascut la Galati" e tradus cuvant cu cuvant "born at Galati" (care e un nonsens de o absurditate ionesciana) Corect este "born in Galati." sau chiar "Galati-born"
Traducerea este foarte buna de altfel, mult mai buna decat altele pe care nu o sa le numesc aici. Termenii tehnici sunt perfect tradusi. Nu e nevoie sa te intristezi, tot o carte de referinta e!

Cartea IAR80 de la Editions TMA "sta sa iasa" de cativa ani buni. O sa cred asta cand o sa o am in mana. In fiecare an la Telford am vorbit cu unul dintre cei care sta la standul cu reviste AirMagazine (nu stiu daca e reprezentant ofical al TMA pentru ca francez si nu vorbeste Engleza bine, dar se pare ca e legat de ei cumva) si mereu imi spune acceasi poveste: "Apare in primavara-vara" de trei ani! :-D

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Postat 20 April 2006 - 08:40 PM

in 1956? eu credeam ca le-au luat rusii. zice in cvarte mai multe despre el? cate s-u produs si unde a zburat? te rog mult daca ai timp scrie 2-3 cuvinte despre el!mersi

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Postat 20 April 2006 - 09:18 PM

salut Horia,
In carte nu scrie nimic de soarta avioanelor, misiuni, etc. Cartea nu se ocupa cu asa ceva ci doar cu constructia avioanelor romanesti.
Pentru ca se ocupa cu cateva sute de modele si tipuri de avioane, cartea nu dedica spatiu unor astfel de date ci doar exclusiv datelor tehnice.
Se pare ca fost doar un singur avion care a fost completate de SET dupa ce a fost mutat de la IAR. In 41 proiectul a fost intrerupt. In rest sunt date tehnice.
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radub, la Apr 20 2006, 06:41 PM, a spus:

Cartea IAR80 de la Editions TMA "sta sa iasa" de cativa ani buni. O sa cred asta cand o sa o am in mana. In fiecare an la Telford am vorbit cu unul dintre cei care sta la standul cu reviste AirMagazine (nu stiu daca e reprezentant ofical al TMA pentru ca francez si nu vorbeste Engleza bine, dar se pare ca e legat de ei cumva) si mereu imi spune acceasi poveste: "Apare in primavara-vara" de trei ani! :-D

Radu

Asa e Radu ! E o amanare continua, de neinteles, mai ales ca textul si pozele sunt terminate si predate de mult.
Cand am zis, ca trebuie sa apara cat de curand cartea, m-am bazat pe editorialul lui Jose Fernandez din Air Magazine nr.30 (februarie-martie 2006) unde e anuntata aparitia in primavara asta. Sa vedem .... :-?

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