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In ce sens pot lega avionul acesta de Romānia, a zburat vre-un pilot romān pe el, a fost atacată Romānia inclusiv cu așa ceva, nu știu Ploiești sau . . . nu mă pricep si aștept ajutor de la voi, am o macheta si ma intreb daca ...
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P 40 vre-o legătură cu Romānia?
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Postat 26 February 2017 - 02:46 PM
Salut !
Dacă nu mă īnșel eu , nici un P-40 nu a zburat deasupra Romāniei . Nici american , nici sovietic. Nu am doborīt niciunul īn campania din Răsărit. Marea majoritate a P-40 sovietice au fost folosite pe frontul de Nord , īn apărarea convoaielor pe ruta nordică , și īn apărarea Moscovei. Din ce-am citit , doar 7IAP ( Istrebitelinīi Aviaționnīi Polk ) din Flota Mării Negre a fost dotat și cu P-40E și M, dar nu știu dacă noi am intrat īn contact cu acest regiment , sau doar aliații germani.
Poate știe mai mult alt coleg.
Numai bine.
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Dacă nu mă īnșel eu , nici un P-40 nu a zburat deasupra Romāniei . Nici american , nici sovietic. Nu am doborīt niciunul īn campania din Răsărit. Marea majoritate a P-40 sovietice au fost folosite pe frontul de Nord , īn apărarea convoaielor pe ruta nordică , și īn apărarea Moscovei. Din ce-am citit , doar 7IAP ( Istrebitelinīi Aviaționnīi Polk ) din Flota Mării Negre a fost dotat și cu P-40E și M, dar nu știu dacă noi am intrat īn contact cu acest regiment , sau doar aliații germani.
Poate știe mai mult alt coleg.
Numai bine.
Sorin
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Postat 26 February 2017 - 03:11 PM
Exista o singura referinta (din ce am gasit eu) la o eventuala conexiune, in cartea lui Carl Molesworth , "Curtiss P-40: Snub-nosed Kittyhawks and Warhawks" .
Acolo scrie (pag 61) ceva de genul ca unitati sovietice dotate cu P-40 au hartuit armatele Germane (si Romane) care se retrageau din Crimeea, in 1944.
Acolo scrie (pag 61) ceva de genul ca unitati sovietice dotate cu P-40 au hartuit armatele Germane (si Romane) care se retrageau din Crimeea, in 1944.
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Postat 26 February 2017 - 05:59 PM
În plus , 126 IAP și-a angajat Kittyhawk-ele ( 18 buc. P-40E ) în luptele de la Stalingrad . Am fost și noi pe acolo...
uite un link în care se mai zice cîte ceva : land-lease p40
"The Kittyhawk began to appear in the Black Sea Fleet in April 1943. Because the VVS of this fleet was considered somewhat secondary, replenishment of its air regiments was accomplished last here, and its aircraft were of various types, old and worn out. For example, by the spring of 1943, in two regiments - the 7th and 62d IAP, there were fighters of seven types: MiG-3, Yak-1, Yak-7, LaGG-3, I-16, I-153, and I-15, with from three to eleven machines of each type. It was precisely to these units, and also the 30th Air Reconnaissance Regiment, that the newest models of the Kittyhawk, P-39K-10, and P-39M-10 that were arriving from Iran via the southern route were assigned. The 65th IAP, whose re-equipping was begun in September 1943, was already receiving the P-40N-1 by November, and the P-40N-5 in December. Before the summer of 1943 deliveries were accomplished through the 25th ZAP and later the 11th ZAP.
The Black Sea Fleet Kittyhawks made a good showing in combat, but on the whole as ground attack aircraft and PVO fighters. The most famous operations in which they participated were flights against the Romanian port Constanza, disruption of the evacuation of German forces from Crimea in 1944, and air cover for the Yalta Conference of the main Allied leaders (Stalin, Roosevelt, and Churchill) in February 1945.
The number of Kittyhawks in the Black Sea Fleet rose steadily from 19 in May 1943 to 42 on 1 December 1943. Combat losses in 1943 were minimal-3 aircraft. The maximum number of P-40s was on 1 January 1945-103 aircraft, after which it was reduced to 89 on 10 May 1945."
uite un link în care se mai zice cîte ceva : land-lease p40
"The Kittyhawk began to appear in the Black Sea Fleet in April 1943. Because the VVS of this fleet was considered somewhat secondary, replenishment of its air regiments was accomplished last here, and its aircraft were of various types, old and worn out. For example, by the spring of 1943, in two regiments - the 7th and 62d IAP, there were fighters of seven types: MiG-3, Yak-1, Yak-7, LaGG-3, I-16, I-153, and I-15, with from three to eleven machines of each type. It was precisely to these units, and also the 30th Air Reconnaissance Regiment, that the newest models of the Kittyhawk, P-39K-10, and P-39M-10 that were arriving from Iran via the southern route were assigned. The 65th IAP, whose re-equipping was begun in September 1943, was already receiving the P-40N-1 by November, and the P-40N-5 in December. Before the summer of 1943 deliveries were accomplished through the 25th ZAP and later the 11th ZAP.
The Black Sea Fleet Kittyhawks made a good showing in combat, but on the whole as ground attack aircraft and PVO fighters. The most famous operations in which they participated were flights against the Romanian port Constanza, disruption of the evacuation of German forces from Crimea in 1944, and air cover for the Yalta Conference of the main Allied leaders (Stalin, Roosevelt, and Churchill) in February 1945.
The number of Kittyhawks in the Black Sea Fleet rose steadily from 19 in May 1943 to 42 on 1 December 1943. Combat losses in 1943 were minimal-3 aircraft. The maximum number of P-40s was on 1 January 1945-103 aircraft, after which it was reduced to 89 on 10 May 1945."
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